210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

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210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby obrut » 07 Nov 2017 18:03

My 510 came with a bunch of parts including 3 cylinder heads, 210, A87 and U60. I think the 210 was the stock L16 head from the car. The A87 and U60 are missing the valves and cams. The A87 looks like a clean head someone started to rebuild. The U60 looks heavily ported and was used at some. Are the valves available for this still? Is the U60 a good head for a L20B?

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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby obrut » 08 Nov 2017 03:53

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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby obrut » 08 Nov 2017 03:53

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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby Three B's Racing » 09 Nov 2017 04:59

Looks to me like those heads have been flycut quite a bit when you look at the lettering which typically has a good amount of space between it and the headgasket surface. You should measure the thickness of the head to determine if too much has been removed which would require cam tower shims to make the head usable. You can still get valve and all associated valve train pieces.
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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby abisel » 09 Nov 2017 06:20

^^^^
... and replace the brass valve seats with steel.

Find a machine shop that knows the Datsun heads to replace the seats with steel, and the valve guides with bronze. You can also up-size the intake valve a mm or two.

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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby okayfine » 09 Nov 2017 19:03

Valves readily available. What to build and what to use it on depends on your goals. You'd want to verify whatever head you want to put money into is sound, flat, and true. THEN, calculate the chamber size to plan out a compression ratio, all before spending money.

Easy to discuss stock heads. Once you come into a few heads that have had who-knows-what done to them over their lives, trust but verify.
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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby obrut » 10 Nov 2017 04:12

Thanks for the info, I'm just trying to figure what I have and the condition. I measured all three heads last night. I would like to build a L20B with 9:5 - 10:1 compression, cam and side draft webers. I've done some reading and it sounds like if I use L18 pistons in a L20B with an open A87 open head I should be around 9:3, this would be fine if the block doesn't require boring. If I use flattop pistons from an L28 and bore the block 1mm I can get closer to 10:1with the open head. It all depends on the condition of the L20B when I get one.

I also read that the U60 head is rare but it just seems like there were not many made and it is basically a U67 head, is that correct? I would like to use this head since its been ported and polished.

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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby datzenmike » 10 Nov 2017 12:26

Uncut L heads ae supposed to be 4.248" thick. All of mine are.
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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby obrut » 16 Nov 2017 03:07

datzenmike wrote:Uncut L heads ae supposed to be 4.248" thick. All of mine are.


I'll remeasure the heads this weekend, I will also measure the other A87 head that I have. datzenmike where and how are you taking your measurements?

thanks for the help

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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby datzenmike » 18 Nov 2017 20:09

From valve cover to head gasket surface.
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Re: 210 A87 U60 cylinder heads

Postby defdes » 19 Nov 2017 05:08

I used a U67 on a long rod LZ 2.2 hybrid, with the hi comp pistons it made quite a hi flowing screamer.


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