SU's.....style??
SU's.....style??
Hey there guys I was hoping you might be able to answer another question for meh. On a 69 SSS motor what style of SU's came on it so I know what type of manule to buy. Are the H, HS....ect i dont want to start doing an overhaul and not have the info i need. Any help would be tits.
Aight got some more SU qestions for ya guys.
* WHat type of K&N filters do i buy they have 6 diffrant veryations in there catolog and im not sure which one i need.
* And how would you guys go about etting up the choke linkage to the SU's so that choke um both with only one cord, or do you have to run two seperate lines and have then converge into one.....ect
* WHat type of K&N filters do i buy they have 6 diffrant veryations in there catolog and im not sure which one i need.
* And how would you guys go about etting up the choke linkage to the SU's so that choke um both with only one cord, or do you have to run two seperate lines and have then converge into one.....ect
How about this - where can you buy COMPLETE SU KITS for L-Series engines? If you guys have a machine shop up there in BC-Land, you should see about getting a place to manufacture a few SU Kits for us peeps that don't deal well with mechanical crap!
I get a lot of flak about linkage.. sure, you have the carb, everything BUT THE LINKAGE... so where's a kit?
I have no clue about the choke iLL510, but that'd be my BEST guess... which isn't that good. Please consult the pro's!
-points to Spencer and Cam and Tob-
I get a lot of flak about linkage.. sure, you have the carb, everything BUT THE LINKAGE... so where's a kit?
I have no clue about the choke iLL510, but that'd be my BEST guess... which isn't that good. Please consult the pro's!
-points to Spencer and Cam and Tob-
Steve Boatman
Grants Pass, OR
1971 510 2DR | KA24DE
Grants Pass, OR
1971 510 2DR | KA24DE
everything you wanted to know about filters...
As far as I remember, SUs had a twin cable for the chokes.
Here is an email I've saved for many reasons - you'll see why when you read it.
Ted-
The 38mm and 240Z individual filters are different due to the air port hole spacing. Wix makes individual can filters for the 38mm carbs, part number 2175, they come two per box, ~$12 for the pair. NAPA can get these. Wix has discontinued the larger 240Z version of this filter (2176 Obsolete).
Below is an old post from Mark Sayer that covers the K&N details very well.
Chris of Maine "pound dirt, don't ingest it"
'71 wagon "junkbox" driver (LZ22 :>)
'71 wagon - project (V8)
'72 4dr - project (LZ)
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Marc wrote:
Here are the part numbers for all the K&N filters for SU's (and some
other logical carbs). Part #'s with an S in the number are made in
England and differ from the US made ones generally available. They are
made from stainless steel rather than chromed steel and their sizes and
designs are also different. The English K&N's are available through APT
http://www.aptfast.com/Main_Index_Page.htm
(others may also be offering them). The offset mount filters *raise* the
filter, IOW the mounting holes are located lower on the baseplate. Part
numbers ending in x indicate that the stock slide-in type air horn will
not work with that filter on that size carb.
Carb type Part number Size
SU (1.5"/38mm) 56-1390 6"x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD23-317 6"x2.5"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD23-318 6'x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD23-319 6'x3.25"
Centered mount SD3-317 6"x2.5"
Centered mount SD3-318 6"x1.75"
Centered mount SD3-319 6"x3.25"
Tapered cone filter SD36
Flat panel filter SP6292
SU (1.75"/44mm) 56-1400 6"x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD24-317 6"x2.5"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD24-318 6"x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD24-319 6"x3.25"
Centered mount SD4-317 6"x2.5"
Centered mount SD4-318 6"x1.75"
Centered mount SD4-319 6"x3.25"
early Z's 56-1410 6"x3.25"
Tapered cone filter SD38
Flat panel filter SP6293
SU (46mm)240Z/260Z 56-1430 6"x3.25"
Mikuni/Weber/SK/Dellortto
40/42mm 56-1310x 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1312Sx 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1313Sx 4.5"x7"x2"
56-1315Sx 4.5"x7"x2.5"
56-1330x 5.5"x9"x1.75"
56-1320 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1340 5.5"x9"x3.25"
56-1350 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1360 5.5"x9"x3.25"
Mikuni/Weber/SK/Dellortto
44/45/47/48mm
56-1310x 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1330x 5.5"x9"x1.75"
56-1342S 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1343S 4.5"x7"x2"
56-1345S 4.5"x7"x2.5"
56-1350 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1352S 5.5"x9"x1.75"
56-1355S 5.5"x9"x2.5"
56-1360 5.5"x9"x3.25"
56-1365S 4.5"x7"x4.5"
56-1366S 4.5"x7"x6"
56-1367S 5.5"x9"x4.5"
56-1368S 5.5"x9"x5.5"
56-1369S 5.5"x9"x6"
Weber/Mikuni 50mm 56-1710 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1720 5.5"x9"x3.25"
Weber DG series 56-1030 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1040 4.5"x7"x3.25"
w/vent hookup 56-1070 5.5"x9"x1.75"
w/vent hookup 56-1060 5.5"x9"x3.25"
DGV adaptor kit for round american type filters w/single center bolt
85-1061
Plenum adpator kit for 85-1061 for remote filter location
dual snorkel 85-8927 fits 2.5" hose or clamp-on filter
single snorkle 85-8921 fits 2.5" hose or clamp-on filter
low profile single 85-1060 fits 4" hose or clamp-on
filter
APT can be reached at 1-800-278-3278 they are also the place that is
selling the billet air horns for the SU's that I designed (wish they
would have paid me for the designs)
The English K&N's are much better quality than the American ones. The
American ones have problems with the chrome flaking off (I know of one
engine that "ate it" by eating the chrome) plus they often will not take
the horns or if they do they require modification. You need horns inside
the filter so this is significant. If the filter uses the same two bolts
to attach the top cover to the base plate as it uses to mount the base
plate to the carb, then the hrons will not fit, at least not without
some modifications.
After all that I realized I left out a few things
You can also get "blank" filters, that is filters without any cutouts in
the baseplate. This allows you to alter the location of the filter. It
is a major pain to cut out the baseplate but if you want or need to do
this you can. The part numbers are:
Part number Size
SD-318B 5.875"x1.75"
SD-319 6"x3.25"
SP6290 - flat panel airbox type
You can also buy most of the English K&N components separately, ie
baseplate, top, spacers, element, etc.
Here is an email I've saved for many reasons - you'll see why when you read it.
Ted-
The 38mm and 240Z individual filters are different due to the air port hole spacing. Wix makes individual can filters for the 38mm carbs, part number 2175, they come two per box, ~$12 for the pair. NAPA can get these. Wix has discontinued the larger 240Z version of this filter (2176 Obsolete).
Below is an old post from Mark Sayer that covers the K&N details very well.
Chris of Maine "pound dirt, don't ingest it"
'71 wagon "junkbox" driver (LZ22 :>)
'71 wagon - project (V8)
'72 4dr - project (LZ)
----------------------------------------------------
Marc wrote:
Here are the part numbers for all the K&N filters for SU's (and some
other logical carbs). Part #'s with an S in the number are made in
England and differ from the US made ones generally available. They are
made from stainless steel rather than chromed steel and their sizes and
designs are also different. The English K&N's are available through APT
http://www.aptfast.com/Main_Index_Page.htm
(others may also be offering them). The offset mount filters *raise* the
filter, IOW the mounting holes are located lower on the baseplate. Part
numbers ending in x indicate that the stock slide-in type air horn will
not work with that filter on that size carb.
Carb type Part number Size
SU (1.5"/38mm) 56-1390 6"x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD23-317 6"x2.5"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD23-318 6'x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD23-319 6'x3.25"
Centered mount SD3-317 6"x2.5"
Centered mount SD3-318 6"x1.75"
Centered mount SD3-319 6"x3.25"
Tapered cone filter SD36
Flat panel filter SP6292
SU (1.75"/44mm) 56-1400 6"x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD24-317 6"x2.5"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD24-318 6"x1.75"
Offset mount (apx 1" up) SD24-319 6"x3.25"
Centered mount SD4-317 6"x2.5"
Centered mount SD4-318 6"x1.75"
Centered mount SD4-319 6"x3.25"
early Z's 56-1410 6"x3.25"
Tapered cone filter SD38
Flat panel filter SP6293
SU (46mm)240Z/260Z 56-1430 6"x3.25"
Mikuni/Weber/SK/Dellortto
40/42mm 56-1310x 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1312Sx 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1313Sx 4.5"x7"x2"
56-1315Sx 4.5"x7"x2.5"
56-1330x 5.5"x9"x1.75"
56-1320 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1340 5.5"x9"x3.25"
56-1350 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1360 5.5"x9"x3.25"
Mikuni/Weber/SK/Dellortto
44/45/47/48mm
56-1310x 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1330x 5.5"x9"x1.75"
56-1342S 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1343S 4.5"x7"x2"
56-1345S 4.5"x7"x2.5"
56-1350 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1352S 5.5"x9"x1.75"
56-1355S 5.5"x9"x2.5"
56-1360 5.5"x9"x3.25"
56-1365S 4.5"x7"x4.5"
56-1366S 4.5"x7"x6"
56-1367S 5.5"x9"x4.5"
56-1368S 5.5"x9"x5.5"
56-1369S 5.5"x9"x6"
Weber/Mikuni 50mm 56-1710 4.5"x7"x3.25"
56-1720 5.5"x9"x3.25"
Weber DG series 56-1030 4.5"x7"x1.75"
56-1040 4.5"x7"x3.25"
w/vent hookup 56-1070 5.5"x9"x1.75"
w/vent hookup 56-1060 5.5"x9"x3.25"
DGV adaptor kit for round american type filters w/single center bolt
85-1061
Plenum adpator kit for 85-1061 for remote filter location
dual snorkel 85-8927 fits 2.5" hose or clamp-on filter
single snorkle 85-8921 fits 2.5" hose or clamp-on filter
low profile single 85-1060 fits 4" hose or clamp-on
filter
APT can be reached at 1-800-278-3278 they are also the place that is
selling the billet air horns for the SU's that I designed (wish they
would have paid me for the designs)
The English K&N's are much better quality than the American ones. The
American ones have problems with the chrome flaking off (I know of one
engine that "ate it" by eating the chrome) plus they often will not take
the horns or if they do they require modification. You need horns inside
the filter so this is significant. If the filter uses the same two bolts
to attach the top cover to the base plate as it uses to mount the base
plate to the carb, then the hrons will not fit, at least not without
some modifications.
After all that I realized I left out a few things
You can also get "blank" filters, that is filters without any cutouts in
the baseplate. This allows you to alter the location of the filter. It
is a major pain to cut out the baseplate but if you want or need to do
this you can. The part numbers are:
Part number Size
SD-318B 5.875"x1.75"
SD-319 6"x3.25"
SP6290 - flat panel airbox type
You can also buy most of the English K&N components separately, ie
baseplate, top, spacers, element, etc.
richard norrish
'68 'goon resto / '71 ice racer / '72 'goon project / '70 4-door rust pile / '67 520 project
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'68 'goon resto / '71 ice racer / '72 'goon project / '70 4-door rust pile / '67 520 project
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