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Re: butters68 build

Postby bertvorgon » 26 Jul 2017 06:36

That's a great picture! Interesting that he has a TOYO MOTORS "Bolder Tint" on there. In the 70's and early 80's, one of those on your car...if you wanted to be racey.....was a Bolder Tint...flavour of the day.

Glad your sale went quickly for you Mike, look after your self!
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Re: butters68 build

Postby butters68 » 26 Jul 2017 15:23

thanks Keith, i've got a few things going down that will keep me from being able to do a lot of stuff( walk, drive) you know the every day stuff.
in the long run it will make things better.
ding ding dong dong all night long long.

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Re: butters68 build

Postby Danthewire » 26 Jul 2017 19:32

Dan here, Butters new owner. Finally was able to log in........It was a pleasure dealing with Mike on the sale of Butters, we talked on Sunday and I was able to come over and look at the car. Mike, my wife, and myself took it for a quick drive and it sold itself.
Its a beautiful car well done and well taken care of.
You should be very proud of your car Mike.
And we will be over for the show as you asked.
Right now I'm just planning a few small upgrades for the chassis, and if possible maybe a LZ motor (cant get that racing out of my blood)
And Keith thanks for noticing the TOYO MOTORS on my race car, Bob was such a good friend who always took the time to answer all my dumb questions. The motor in that car was one that he built,and probably one of the last ones he ever did. I miss talking to him.

Dan

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Re: butters68 build

Postby bertvorgon » 26 Jul 2017 20:09

Welcome to the site Dan!

I too knew Bob as his shop was just down the street from where I worked in the 70's. He helped me out a lot when I started racing, I even made the "grade" to be able to have coffee with him at the lunch hour in the inner sanctum. Once he saw I was serious about the whole race thing, that made a huge difference as he did not suffer fools too lightly.

He bailed me out one time when my main shaft failed in my transmission and I had a major points race coming up. He somehow got one out of Japan and had my transmission rebuilt just in time. Never forgot that.

Nice that Mikes car has stayed in the Province, it is a beauty. Here is a picture of "Butters" and my "Great Rolling Dyno" during our Octoberfast Drive, 2016
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Re: butters68 build

Postby GREG510 » 26 Jul 2017 20:29

Dan/Keith :
Was Bobs shop all ways in Richmond on Bridgeport, or did he have another location as well ??

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Re: butters68 build

Postby Danthewire » 27 Jul 2017 06:24

Hi Greg the only location I knew was 12040 Bridgeport.
Cool picture Keith. Good comment about Bob not suffering fools kindly,
I saw that a few times. Actually I was asking him way back about turbo charging, he told me he didn't know much about it but knew a guy who did and he would introduce me to him. That would have been you. Small world . Never did go that route though.

Dan

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Re: butters68 build

Postby bertvorgon » 27 Jul 2017 07:19

Toyo Motors, ( Bob Sr.) was always on Bridgeport, just near # 5 Road. His son now has a shop just off #6 Road, still called TOYO MOTORS, Bob Jr., he races a car at Skagit Speedway.

Bob could tell right away if you knew what you were taking about, so I always made sure my questions were well founded, which was hard then as the Internet did not exist and there were very few books available in Vancouver at the time.

Bob was kinda curious about my car with the turbo on it, as I actually had it working quite well at the time. I took him for a ride one day and he was impressed, which boosted (pun intended) my ego immensely. In the mid 70's we still had 98 octane Premium fuel, so I was getting away with running 15 PSI boost. I finally popped a head gasket and Bob sold me one he used in his race car motors, so I never had a problem after that. There were no waste gates then, so boost control was done by maintaining engine breathing restrictions ( exhaust and intake size). I decided to start changing things of course and took the stock exhaust apart and put in the "Turbo" muffler and a better flowing air filter. Well, that just let the boost go way up past 12 PSI and it did not take many slaloms and road trips to finally finish off #3 cylinder head gasket. Then, as I mentioned, the torque was going up and the roadster 5spd did not like that at all, hence the main shaft failure ( I bent it). Bob was IMPRESSED with that!

As there was very few turbo ANYTHING back then, most of the guys that bought the suck through kits all killed their motors, I was likely the only one that really stuck with turbo charging long term. I did buy, stupid money then, a thing Made by IMPCO, A TC2 boost controller. What it was an air controlled restriction in the intake...and restrict it did. Felt like the motor was trying to suck through a straw. I still have that sitting in a box, a bit of historical junk from the early days of aftermarket turbocharging. I should post up a picture.

Enough of my rambling.
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Re: butters68 build

Postby funwithmonkeys » 11 Aug 2017 22:56

I just had this picture of Butters show up on Facebook.
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Re: butters68 build

Postby 510Freak » 11 Aug 2017 23:02

I think I know who took that pic :P
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Re: butters68 build

Postby butters68 » 12 Aug 2017 00:14

thats awesome man thanks for putting that on here. :D
glad to see butters is out and about.
ding ding dong dong all night long long.


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