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Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 12:01
by bertvorgon
At the parking lot, instead of going LEFT and just walking along the river, you go to the furthest lot just to your right and the EAST CANYON TRAIL starts there. That is the old skidder/logging truck road. At about 4 KM you will be ABOVE the falls, where you can follow a trail down ( steep) or continue along the road. At about 4.5 - 5Km you will come to a left turn ( if you want) to go across a new bridge and then loop back down the west side, or head to Alder Flats. If you continue on it does slowly degrade into a true trail, where there is access to cool rocky beaches. You don not run into many people after the bridge fork.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explor ... 0727604381

The east Canyon trail is marked on the extreme right of the map.

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 13:16
by Byron510
It appears I've been doing the Lower Falls Trail then. I have done it 4 times since moving out here, it's a great walk in the heat of the summer as you are right in the trees nearly the whole way, and that ice fed water is right beside you to cool off at any point. And the falls are also beautiful as well. Here are a couple I took last year with the family above the upper falls, and record that bigger trees were once here and that the girls cold climb the stumps – hence the skidder track!

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 05:32
by bertvorgon
Nice photos!

This area had some of the largest trees on the lower mainland, as you can see by the stumps through out the forest here. It was also the largest railroad logging operation, you can still see some of the rail bed on the west side.

Matt and I always think about how good in shape those loggers were, you can see where the "spring boards" were on the stumps. The arms and core strength of those loggers would have been amazing.

There are two pictures of the trail past the fork to the bridge, where it just becomes a single track and washed out areas, easy to walk though. Matt and I rode our bikes up there some years ago.

Say, if anyone would like to come on any of our spring tune up walks, you would be more than welcome.

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 18:25
by loungin112
Those trees are amazing! Here in Colorado, the largest pines I have found are maybe 75% of the circumference of the ones you guys are standing in front of. Those pines, found in a state park area, were huddled together in a small ravine with a good but slow-moving water supply. I think the ravine partially hid how big the trees were, for if you simply looked out across the landscape above the ravine you couldn't see any difference in the tree height. There was a small metal plaque that was pinned to the largest tree, but unfortunately time had erased whatever the plaque had proclaimed.

We came across these giant pines while out foraging for a Christmas tree. In years past, before our family switched to boring (but pollen free) plastic trees, my family would purchase a permit from the State forest service, pack up the truck, and head into the woods to cut down a tree for Christmas. It was an all day affair. We would begin early in the morning to drive the 2 hours to the designated site. We would pack a folding table, some chairs, and decent lunch. Usually lunch consisted of sandwiches, home made soup or chili, breads, coffee, and hot chocolate. There was usually snow on the ground (this would have been in November) and picnicking in the snow is quite a different experience. That, and the snow made the required hike to locate the perfect Christmas tree an exhausting endeavor (no snow shoes!) By the end of the day, we would always find the perfect - well...perhaps good enough - tree for Christmas, would strap it to the truck bed, and make the trip back home. Of course, everyone but the driver would snooze the whole way home...exhausted from hiking up and down hills, full of good food. But, without those experiences, I would have never of found what I consider the largest pines I have yet to see in Colorado. (Lots of lumber was pulled out from the old growth forests in years past.)

Wish I had pictures!

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 18:29
by loungin112
Byron510 wrote:Clint, having only spent a short while in Colorado (took in the Pikes Peak Hill Climb a couple years ago - crossed that off the bucket list), i was certainly reminded that this area is very much like the interior of British Columbia - dry and hot for the most part, with lots of beautiful valleys, rivers and forests. I was born in the interior of BC, and certainly love ot go back. The west coast here is quite different, being a rain forest until you cross that coastal mountains. The Pacific North West has it's own coast that is really quite unique in the world, ranging from northern Oregon to the south of Alaska, it's a completely different animal all together from the land on the other side of the coastal mountains. We are very lucky in that both ecosystems are within such a short drive for us, and we do take advantage of this on our cruises.

Byron


Byron,
Pikes Peak HC is something I would like to experience one of these days....even if just to watch. Sort of silly I haven't made it down there, but there is a lot on my not-yet-a buck-list list of things to do. I work full time and go to school in the evenings, so I'm looking forward to getting some time back after graduating and revisting that list of mine. Wish I could join you guys on your cruises and adventures... As with Keith, if you ever find yourself in Colorado, let me know.

Clint

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 19:14
by bertvorgon
Hey Clint, thanks for sharing your story. That too has been my family tradition, drive off into the wilds somewhere, and spend hours trying to find the "perfect" tree. More often than not we had the CHARLIE BROWN SPECIAL. Along with that goes that outdoor experience of fresh air, lunch and just being together.

Last year we could not get out, so ended up at a Christmas tree farm not far from us, so of course my son and I could not get the easy ones.....

This coming Christmas, the Province of B.C. has change some of the rules, so it will NOT be as secretive a plan as it used to be.

What are you taking in school?

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 01 Apr 2017 09:39
by loungin112
hey there Keith,

I currently hold a bachelors degree in social work, but I've gone about as far as I can professionally with that degree. So, about 4 years ago I started taking classes to earn a masters degree in business administration. I'm just about wrapped up, but I'm tired....2hr commute each day, 9 hour workday, 4hrs of homework each night...it takes a toll. I'm hoping to go into the fields of either project management or process improvement after all is said and done. To those who are contemplating going back to school...I would advise that there really is no time like the present. Or to apply another saying my father handed down: "do not put off for tomorrow what can be achieved today".

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 01 Apr 2017 10:01
by loungin112
So, I was able to dig up some photos from our trip a number of years ago to Ouray. We took these photos along the offroad trail up to Yankee Boy Basin. It is rated as a moderate offroad trail, but the Xterra handled it just fine. (I love the xterra by the way...very disappointed they discontinued.)

This trip was at the end of June!

The cool thing about Ouray is that you do not have to own an offroad-worthy vehicle. There are a number of outfitters that will rent jeeps by the day.


Clint

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 02 Apr 2017 08:58
by bertvorgon
Thanks for posting those, great pictures and makes me want to go exploring! Looks like they had a stamp mill there to crush the ore.

Up here with our weather there are very few mines that still stand, as the snow load and rain has just killed them. One exception here in B.C. is the historic BARKERVILLE ghost town which is now a living museum. We have issues here with mine drainage but due to the costs, very little are dealt with. We have one high profile mine, BRITANNIA BEACH, which at it's height was the largest copper producer in the British empire. In 2006 a treatment plant was put in to deal with the acid drainage.

I'm involved in a mining related business so I know what mines have to do now before they get permitted...just bring 100 million dollars these days, and that's before you even turn the coffee machine on.

Nice thing here and I'm sure down there, that all the mining records have been scanned in to a digital file, so with lots of patience you can find the old reports and possibly the maps that show where they were and the underground maps can be there too.

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 17 Apr 2017 10:51
by bertvorgon
I would say it was a large avalanche, booming across the valley for about two minutes at least. A massive slab must have broken off from the backside peak of Golden Ears, thundering down to the valley floor. The backside is almost vertical in a few placers for a few thousand feet, so it would have had good speed when it fanned out at the bottom. I hope no hikers had dared to foray up that side. You could see a huge cornice up there also, made me think of the 5 killed a week or so ago, on Mnt. Harvey, when they ventured out onto a snow cornice, not realizing how big the overhang was. You cannot be too careful in the mountains.

In line with getting our legs in shape for summer, we went back to the East Canyon trail with the plan to push way past the weekend warrior portion, which gets us into the rugged section of the trail. The snow was gone from where we first encountered it but after another kilometer, started to run into it again, very surprising, which speaks to our crappy spring. We still ended up walking on 1 -2 feet and it was getting slushy as the day warmed up, specially on the way back.

Our destination was to be another rock beach that the trail intersects. The small log bridge that crosses a river side channel was gone when we got there. We already had to do some diversions to cross some of the spring freshets, where it was too deep to rock hop. Here we decided to just take our boots off, roll up the pants and wade over to the sandy continuation of the trail....WOW...was that water cold! The air was still cool there, the north wind blowing cold air down off the snowy peaks ahead of us. We started a small fire just to take the chill off while we had our lunch, spending an hour before we too started to cool right off.

On the way back we found this big tree had gone over the side channel, so we elected to bush whack through the Devils Club to get to it and carefully walk the log, instead of having to take our shoes off and really get cooled down.

As it was late afternoon the last 5 km were quite warm now, as the day had warmed up and we were out of that cold wind. All total we did 14 km this trip, with slightly heavier packs. Each trip we will increase the load, to try to get our hips and legs used to the load.

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 17 Apr 2017 10:53
by bertvorgon
few more

Re: Keith Law's complete TALES FROM THE GREAT ROLLING DYNO

Posted: 29 Apr 2017 10:59
by loungin112
As a kid, my father gave me two books that would wind up fueling a lifelong passion for outdoor adventures.

The first was this:
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We couldn't afford to formally participate in the Boy Scouts, but my father did as a kid and passed this manual on to me. I would spend countless hours every night reading about knot tying, building shelters, snares, latrines, etc. I was probably 7 years old at that time. Then, on a trip to the family cabin, my father found this book:

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I lost the original, which didn't have as many stories as this version does. But, I remember waking up early in the morning and reading this book while gobbling up some pancakes. I was about 8 or 9 years old at that time.

Either way, between the two, I was addicted to looking for things and places that have been either forgotten or lost. Hopefully this summer, with added time being available, the wife and I can get back out to looking and exploring that which has been either forgotten or lost.