Rear Quickor sway bar issue

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Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by eastbaysolo_73 » 26 Mar 2019 10:39

So just the other day I installed my rear Quickor sway bar I bought a year ago.
Install went very smooth. I was very pleased with how it turned out. I went to install
the rear wheels and thats where I encountered a problem. The rear wheel makes contact
with the sway bar. I found this image online to give you an idea of what the sway bar
design look looks like and the contact point with the wheel. I don't want to grind off anything.
I would rather sell it and buy a different style bar if it comes to that. My rear wheel is 15x7.5

Imagerear_swaybar_t by v p, on Flickr


Where its hitting my wheels. I marked it with a sharpie.
Imageswaybar by v p, on Flickr

Not sure what to do at this point.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by bertvorgon » 26 Mar 2019 11:32

Never seen a bar like that with such long arms...wonder how effective it really would be.

Dave at Futofab has a rear bar I believe;

https://www.futofab.com/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=22

He shows 2 diameters...I would drive the car FIRST...then see what you need to tune in or out of.

Not many if any of us run rear bars here.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by bertvorgon » 26 Mar 2019 12:44

I understand, for us up here our suspensions have really been done around my setup...which morphed into the Specialty Springs, etc.

This really lets us use the throttle to induce oversteer, with a car that maybe has a bit of terminal understeer at the limit, and I mean the actual final limit when the overall characteristic of the car finally shows.

I'm not a hero so I never liked an oversteering penchant at say 80 MPH. At the slaloms, where speeds were relatively low, I could use my power to induce oversteer and knew how to drive to the point of balancing the car.

At the track I was just not comfortable with an inherently taily car and made sure through huge toe in at the rear, amongst a few other tweeks, that I would not loose control of the rear.

You have a very nice car!
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by iceman510 » 26 Mar 2019 13:56

For information, what offset/backspacing are the wheels you are running?

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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by eastbaysolo_73 » 26 Mar 2019 16:15

bertvorgon wrote:
26 Mar 2019 12:44
I understand, for us up here our suspensions have really been done around my setup...which morphed into the Specialty Springs, etc.

This really lets us use the throttle to induce oversteer, with a car that maybe has a bit of terminal understeer at the limit, and I mean the actual final limit when the overall characteristic of the car finally shows.

I'm not a hero so I never liked an oversteering penchant at say 80 MPH. At the slaloms, where speeds were relatively low, I could use my power to induce oversteer and knew how to drive to the point of balancing the car.

At the track I was just not comfortable with an inherently taily car and made sure through huge toe in at the rear, amongst a few other tweeks, that I would not loose control of the rear.

You have a very nice car!
Thank Bertvorgon. I get what your saying.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by eastbaysolo_73 » 26 Mar 2019 16:21

iceman510 wrote:
26 Mar 2019 13:56
For information, what offset/backspacing are the wheels you are running?
I think the rear is like +12 Not certain though.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by eastbaysolo_73 » 26 Mar 2019 16:23

I think my only choice in the matter is to uninstall it and put it up for sale. I go another route. I still have sometime before I can drive it.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by icehouse » 26 Mar 2019 17:55

Keith is right. I keep those in the bushes with my steering boxes.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by RMS » 26 Mar 2019 19:06

I had to pull mine out of the weeds, cut them up and weighed them in.... guys kept trying to buy them.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by eastbaysolo_73 » 26 Mar 2019 22:51

LOL you guys are killing me. Super anti on the anti sway bar.. I got it fellas thanks for chiming in.
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by bertvorgon » 27 Mar 2019 07:55

Good you can laugh.....not anti......just our setups. So much depends on tires and driving style too, so many factors. I love handling discussions, as that to me is ultimately what our light, nimble cars are all about. How we get there is each person's individual journey!
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by defdes » 27 Mar 2019 10:54

eastbaysolo_73 wrote:
26 Mar 2019 22:51
LOL you guys are killing me. Super anti on the anti sway bar.. I got it fellas thanks for chiming in.
Never ran them either, all the 510 guys in my vintage race group thought I was crazy but I could always keep up, just balance the car, and the front and rear shock and spring rates.

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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by qwik510 » 30 Mar 2019 09:10

Are you telling me that my set of NOS Quickor sway bars, that I’ve had in storage for years are scrap metal?
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by RMS » 30 Mar 2019 16:47

in my mind yes or wall art
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Re: Rear Quickor sway bar issue

Post by eastbaysolo_73 » 31 Mar 2019 12:09

qwik510 wrote:
30 Mar 2019 09:10
Are you telling me that my set of NOS Quickor sway bars, that I’ve had in storage for years are scrap metal?
I wouldn't toss it. I posted my brand new one on FB and sold it with in the hour.
They are still highly sought out for. Only reason I got rid of mine was, it was hitting the inner wheel.
Otherwise I would have ran it, sucks I couldn't. I waited like 3 months for that bar to be made by Glen.
I ended up with a Suspension technique sway bar which solved my problem..
Great feed back and definitely opened my eyes to other ways to go about setting up your suspension.
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