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Garvice
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Re: GAS 1600

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Did driver's side rear dogleg, not too much rust in here, just outside sheet and a little in the bottom of the wheel well.

ImageGAS1600_013_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

Was just going to repair a few little spots, but figured it was easier to replace a whole section as metal was too thin.
ImageGAS1600_013_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_013_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_013_05 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_013_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

Does anyone know what the little holes in the sill are for? I have about 4 or 5 in each sill about a foot apart? If they are not for anything, I might just weld them up.
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Garvice wrote:
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Does anyone know what the little holes in the sill are for? I have about 4 or 5 in each sill about a foot apart? If they are not for anything, I might just weld them up.
If you are referring to the hole above, and the 4 or there parallel to it going forward, there is an aluminium rocker trim which has a spring clip which snaps through these holes.

However, by design the clip on this trim is a problem. When you snap the trim in place, the clips themselves tend to chip the paint around the hole effectively exposing the metal to the elements in one of the most vulnerable parts of the car to rust. If you use the rocker trim, my suggestion is that you install the trim with a suitable double sided adhesive and not use the stock clips for fixation of the trim.

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Cheers Byron.
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Fixed a section of the rear boot this morning.

Started with this.
ImageGAS1600_014_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_014_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_014_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_014_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_014_05 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_014_06 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_014_07 by Garvice, on Flickr

Made a cut in my 63mm pipe to make the reversed curve flange.
Got to make the rear quarter to rear panel corner before I weld in the right hand side.
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I've once tried forming this part your about to tackle on my second rally car. From a panel beaters point of view, it was definitely a failure... Good thing it was just a rally car, no one would ever point it out!

Nice repair above. Good to see some down home panel work happening lately, it's great to follow. Keep em coming.

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Thanks again Byron. If there is a body work page I'd be happy to contribute some little ideas/tips I've found along the way. This is my first car that I've done metal body work on, so it is a learning experience on every panel. Here is a post of how I did the wheel arch http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/ ... #msg126013

I've been thinking of how to do the next panel the past week and will continue to ponder it until I make it. I have a few ideas but I'm suspecting this will take 2 or 3 goes to get right.

I know what you mean about the panel work on the site, I'm only new to the site so didn't know what to expect, but have found a few good threads with guys tackling panels. Make me think I've taken a few short cuts along the way. HA.
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Garvice wrote:Thanks again Byron. If there is a body work page I'd be happy to contribute some little ideas/tips I've found along the way.
There is not a panel/sheet metal thread yet, but one could certainly be started with tips, trick and tools of the trade. Lately yourself, fiveten and proflex have all tackled projects beyond a simple sheet metal patch. Showcasing your projects as you've been doing is great, but if tools and processes were shared an account thread of their own, that would be awesome. Why not start a thread yourself, here on the site? I'm sure many will contribute.

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I would love to see something like that. I've always thought that forming panels required brakes, english wheels, and a whole bunch of specialized tools. Y'all seem to be able to work magic with hammers. I'd love to see how it's done and get some tips. With quality patch panels are hard as they are to find, I think it would be a good addition to the site.
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Started a metal panel forming thread.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=25090&p=211123#p211123

I will try and add to it as I do more panels. Going to bed for now though.
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More repairs on rear panel. Note for others, don't weld below the crease line, too hard to try and planish and grind welds.
ImageGAS1600_015_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_015_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_015_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_015_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_015_05 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_015_06 by Garvice, on Flickr

I put a bit more detail in the metal forming thread.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=25090#p211422
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Re: GAS 1600

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Well guys, I had one of those humbling days in the shed today. I gave the panel where the rear quarter meets the boot a go. This panel has the dint from the rear boot section as well as a couple of opposite curves. Bit of a complex corner which requires some shrinking or stretching (or both). I took lots of photos along the way with the intention of showing a how to on the corner. I will save the photos for when I get the panel right. Got a couple of photos below, but I will redo this panel for the third time (practice makes perfect).

ImageGAS1600_016_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_016_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

I am going to make this section in 2 to 3 sections next time as it was getting too hard for me to control the movement of the metal.
Think I might need to make a T-stake to get the right curve on the corner too.

So, I gave up on the panel early as I was starting to get a bit annoyed and needed to cool down, so I continued with the stripping of deadener. I had done a bit of this stripping over the last few weeks.
ImageGAS1600_016_03 by Garvice, on Flickr
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Ok guys, another panel I'm happy with. This isn't welded in yet as I have to fix the inside panel first, then I'll weld this outside panel on.

This was the panel I started with.
ImageGAS1600_017_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

Took a lot of dressing with hammer and dollies to get to this stage.
ImageGAS1600_017_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_05 by Garvice, on Flickr

The inside panel needs some work, will need to redo the bottom flange and also the wheel arch as well as a few other spots. It is in better shape then the other side, but still not real good.
ImageGAS1600_017_06 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_07 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_08 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_09 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_10 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_017_11 by Garvice, on Flickr

I will put a detailed how to in the metal working thread.
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I did damn near all the panel work on my Bronze car, but this lower panel section was tackled by my father. I think it took him a week to make the two sides like you pictured above and I believe that there were a few scrapped attempts.

Nice work.

The shrinking method needs work for me. I used a flanger/shrinker once, felt like cheating after trying it the hammer way...

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Thanks Byron. Yes the shrinker stretchers are easier, but the one I have is only good for about 1/2 to 1". So I find I end up doing it manually a fair bit. This panel probably has about 12-15 hours in it (which makes the $180 I paid for the replacement passenger side seem like a bargain). If I count the two failed attempts it would easy be double that.
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Garvice wrote:This panel probably has about 12-15 hours in it (which makes the $180 I paid for the replacement passenger side seem like a bargain).

For the "love and for the sport". Many of us here have spent a ridiculous amount of time building a component which we could have bought for a fraction of the price. This is one thing 510ers have in common.

Great work, keep it coming.

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