GAS 1600

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Garvice
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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 15 Jul 2013 13:59

Cheers Joel. Within the next month the engine will hopefully be revealed.

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 28 Jul 2013 04:24

Got some primer on the engine bay.
ImageGAS1600_027_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

Anyone know how to paint in tight situations like this one.
ImageGAS1600_027_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

Just waiting on the tax man, then I will pick up the halfcut.
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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Three B's Racing » 29 Jul 2013 10:43

I brushed mine with a few of those styrofoam cheap brushes. I used POR-15 brushed it in first to make sure it go into those seams really well. Then mixed up paint but didn't dilute it as thin as called for. Brushed in three coats and it's still in great condition 16 years later.

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Dave Patten » 29 Jul 2013 12:28

Hey Lou,
Do your styrofoam brushes "squeak" when you use them?

I found they didn't soak up much paint.
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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Three B's Racing » 30 Jul 2013 08:08

Dave Patten wrote:Hey Lou,
Do your styrofoam brushes "squeak" when you use them?

I found they didn't soak up much paint.


Ya, not as much as a typical brush Dave but they did a pretty good job. Squeak? don't remember because that was 16 years ago. I didn't squeak back then but I do now :D

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby MCMLXXXV » 30 Jul 2013 10:35

McShagger510 wrote:SKILLS!



A shit load of what he said ! awesome work man :wink:

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 30 Jul 2013 13:56

Cheers guys.

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 09 Aug 2013 03:03

Engine Time!

It's a Toyota 3SGE Beams engine.
4cyl, DOHC, 2ltr.

One of the main reasons I picked this engine, is because I wanted to do something different (I haven't seen this engine done in a 1600 before, but sure someone has before). I had the importers start the engine up and it sounds mean. Will be a great note with a nice straight exhaust. BRAPP BRAPP.

ImageGAS1600_028_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_028_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_028_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_028_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_028_05 by Garvice, on Flickr
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Re: GAS 1600

Postby MCMLXXXV » 09 Aug 2013 05:17

woah nice !! this engine is awesome !

my buddy had a ae86 with this swap done and you are right it sounds MEAN !!!!

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 25 Aug 2013 05:40

Started stripping the half cut this weekend with a couple of mates.

Got the engine/transmission into the 1600, currently it is just sitting spaced off the crossmember. Also have to cut some of the transmission tunnel to get the transmission sitting higher (haven't worked out how much to take off yet). Currently the engine tilts back about 5.5deg, so going to have to lift a few degrees. The engine mount rubbers were stuffed (completely split), so have to find some new mounts (or something similar), but they will fit just ahead of the crossmember, so will be an easy mount to make. Radiator was too wide and too tall to fit, so will need a new one and the brake booster/clutch master might get tight. Also haven't checked the steering yet (engine/transmission came in from the bottom).

On to the pictures.

This is all I took off the crossmember, don't even need to reverse it.
ImageGAS1600_029_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

This shows clearance between sump and front of crossmember (going to need a bit of a bash guard).
ImageGAS1600_029_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

Engine sitting in bay.
ImageGAS1600_029_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

How much it currently sticks above guards.
ImageGAS1600_029_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

Bonnet fits on.
ImageGAS1600_029_05 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_029_06 by Garvice, on Flickr

This shows how the mounts sit, any suggestions for similar mounts?
ImageGAS1600_029_07 by Garvice, on Flickr
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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Byron510 » 25 Aug 2013 08:19

Wow, that really is a front sump!

I don't have any ideas on replacements for the mounts you have, but I am worried about how low your front sump is. I've hit a few things with my cross member over the years, I'd hate to see the sump take the first hit. A skid plate will likely be needed there, since pushing the motor upwards does not appear to be an option.

Keep us posted.

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby McShagger510 » 25 Aug 2013 10:05

:wink: Dry sump! :wink:

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 25 Aug 2013 13:35

Hey Byron,
Yep got a few ideas. I can actually go a little higher, skid plate would probably be first option, then there's option of modifying sump (or even just building a brand new one to suit).

Mcshagger,
You sound like one of my mates that was helping me, though he was also talking about tubular chassis and mid mounted lsx/transaxle covered with fibreglass body. Ha.

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Re: GAS 1600

Postby blue72 » 27 Aug 2013 15:42

Excellent work so far. Even though my 510 is really quite rusted out and I'm making all my own patch panels, at least there is someone out there who has shown that it can be done.
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Re: GAS 1600

Postby Garvice » 08 Sep 2013 02:47

The mounts that came with the half cut were completely split, so I had to order some mounts for the car. I wanted to reuse the aluminium mounts. Rang toyota and found out that they wanted $200 a piece for the rubber mounts! Found a guy in australia with some good ones and had them shipped up. So I was finally able to modify the crossmember.

ImageGAS1600_030_01 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_030_02 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_030_06 by Garvice, on Flickr

The next two photos show the clearance on the sides of the transmission before I lifted the rear (needs to come up about 100mm).
ImageGAS1600_030_03 by Garvice, on Flickr

ImageGAS1600_030_04 by Garvice, on Flickr

Cut a little out of the tunnel, this puts the transmission about 2degrees vertically out from the diff. I think I want them closer to parallel though, so will probably lift the transmission further. This will require cutting the tunnel almost all the way to the firewall though. I will also have to do something about the sump/bellhousing or the steering linkage as they currently clash. Maddat.com.au do a modified linkage that might work.

Gear stick currently comes through at the front seat mount, which I think might work well.

ImageGAS1600_030_05 by Garvice, on Flickr
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