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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by Octave » 09 Dec 2012 20:30

I've been around SR20 forums since the begining of the millenium haha. . Owned a FWD SR20DET for many years and now I'm a Nissan Tech for the past 2. But anyways from the technical forum of the sr20forum.

All Nissan Side feed injs are high impedence

The GTIR 444cc Inj is low impedence

91-99 USDM SR20DE = 259 cc side feed injs
00-02 USDM SR20DE RR = top feed injs

U12, U13, W10 and W11 SR20DET = 370 cc Side Feed injs
Pulsar GTIR SR20DET = 444 cc Top Feed injs

S13 and S14 RWD SR20DET =370 cc Side Feed injs
S15 RWD SR20DET = 444 cc Side Feed injs

SR20VET = 444cc Top Feed
SR20VE 20V = 350cc Top Feed

Side Feed Injs

23 cc = 16 WHP
46 cc = 31 WHP
93 cc = 63 WHP
139 cc = 94 WHP
185 cc = 125 WHP * Pink GA16
231 cc = 156 WHP
259 cc = 175 WHP * Red SR20DE
278 cc = 187 WHP
324 cc = 218 WHP
333 cc = 226 WHP * Grey SR20VE
---------------------------------------------333 cc @ 4 bar = 261 WHP
370 cc = 250 WHP * Purple SR20DET
---------------------------------------------370 cc @ 4 bar = 290 WHP
416 cc = 281 WHP
444 cc = 299 WHP * Brick Brown SR20DET ( S15 )
---------------------------------------------444 cc @ 4 bar = 345 WHP
462 cc = 312 WHP
509 cc = 342 WHP
520 cc = 348 WHP * Yellow Subaru STi side feed
---------------------------------------------520 cc @ 4 bar = 400 WHP
555 cc = 373 WHP * Yellow
---------------------------------------------555 cc @ 4 bar = 423 WHP
601 cc = 405 WHP * Yellow Tomei
---------------------------------------------601 cc @ 4 bar = 457 WHP
647 cc = 436 WHP
692 cc = 468 WHP
740 cc = 500 WHP * Red
---------------------------------------------740 cc @ 4 bar = 580 WHP

850 cc = 570 WHP SARD
---------------------------------------------850 cc @ 4 bar = 660 WHP

Nissan Top Feed Injs

350cc = 275 WHP * Green SR20VE 20V P12

444cc = 299 WHP * Yellow RNN14 GTIR

444cc = 299 WHP * Yellow SR20VET




MSD Top Feed Injs

36 lb = 250 WHP
50 lb = 355 WHP
72 lb = 520 WHP
96 lb = 690 WHP

MSD Injs do not run right at 4 bar so don't try it.

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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 09 Dec 2012 20:44

i read this same info from a website moments ago.. very conflicting info out there and seems that there is a difference between nations. i'm not completely convinced yet.
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by Octave » 10 Dec 2012 09:04

Yeah I feel you. The best way would to just get them flow tested. My 1st set of injectors that came from the imported sr20det I bought were grey. I was pissed thinking they were 333cc injectors. come to find out the older purple injectors would fade over time to a greyish color. but my sr20de 259cc injectors were deffinatly red. I gave my buddy a set of 370cc injectors but he ended up buying a 5.0 ford for his 240sx. If he has them still I'll let you have them for shipping price. But I'll warn you. My 1st turbo upgrade was a t3 60 trim. I blew a ring land for running 14lbs and lack of fuel on the 370cc at 4bar. At 10lbs you'll probably be fine tho. My engine managment at the time was a JWT. After that I switched to 440cc injectors at 4.5bar and didn't have a problem running in the 330-350 whp range.

I will say any info anyone has to give should be taken lightly. The best way to know about injector size and power handling is to have it tuned using a proven dyno shop or buy a widband o2 setup and keep the afr's on the safe side and detonation nill. Good luck Finn I'm always for boost as it is addicting

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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 10 Dec 2012 10:57

i already have an AEM wideband waiting to go in and the ECU was tuned for 370cc. i think even ten pounds is too much for my car. definitely too much for my clutch. i'll take those injectors off your hands. it seems like the color code would differ under some degree of region, year, etc.. seems better to be safe than sorry. thanks for the info
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by Octave » 10 Dec 2012 13:11

Well he sold those injectors. Guess Im sorry for offering what i didn't have in my hands to offer. I assumed since he didn't need them he'd give em back. Instead he sold them and I never saw a dime. Nor did he pay me for putting the bottom end together for him. I'll ask a couple different buddies tho

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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 24 Dec 2012 22:39

i got some work done on the gauge cluster. i started with idea of straight carbon fiber but i think im going to thrown some paint on it, too many flaws. the neon center console is so nice! i love having cup holders again. the cluster is just mocked up in the pic, i'm going to paint it and secure it tomorrow after the onslaught.
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 24 Dec 2012 22:40

center console
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by goichi1 » 25 Dec 2012 11:04

i like it!! looks like a really nice fit and there's nothing like having some functional cup holders!!

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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by Byron510 » 25 Dec 2012 23:55

I didn't know that your car was a 68...

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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 28 Dec 2012 21:14

vin says '69 but has all the tall tell signs of a '68, i.e. push to test brake light. the pre oct '69 didn't have it i think...
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by okayfine » 29 Dec 2012 08:17

Entire dash is US68, but IIRC you have '69 taillights. Do you still have the door sticker with production date?
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by dodgydan » 29 Dec 2012 11:49

wiper arms go in same direction like `69 and up. at least it looks like that in pic of dash.
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 31 Dec 2012 19:20

tapped out a f'ed up flange bolt hole. had to over-size the hole.
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 31 Dec 2012 19:27

i also started the mock up for the cold side piping. all bs aside, this is probably the most difficult aspect of this build... the intercooler won't fit where i originally wanted it, the coolant lines are in the way. i think i found a good location the have most of what i need but that's utilizing a 2'' aft of the intercooler instead of the 2.5'' that's making up the rest of the cold side. seems like it would build a vortex inside the cooler.. any thoughts?
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Re: Finn's KA24DET

Post by finn » 31 Dec 2012 20:30

okayfine wrote:Entire dash is US68, but IIRC you have '69 taillights. Do you still have the door sticker with production date?
No sticker but the wipers go the same way. She's a mutt but i love the dash.
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