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Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby Fred_L-P » 08 Apr 2017 20:56

Hey guys,

Quick recap from my intro: I'm from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. 26, mechanical engineer.
I just picked up my new project this morning.
73 2 doors shell with minimal rust. Most of it have been repaired already, but it's been sitting for 6 years. It's an unfinished project coming with a load of healthy spare parts and full interior.

The body is in a pretty rough shape, it'll need some love.
I found at least 6 different paint colors, so I will probably try to strip it back to bare metal instead of adding even more on top.
My plan is to put it back on the road with a fairly stock KA24DE as a summer daily driver within 2 to 3 years.
Keep in mind this is going to be my first ground up build.
I don't have an infinite budget or any special skills, but I'm patient, a quick learner and I can work with my hands.
So far I've only worked on my 2004 Ranger with the usual off-road suspension upgrades to run 35s.
I will obviously need guidance and advice from all of you guys!

Here it is, loaded and ready to go!
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And back home
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I will obviously need to reorganize my garage to make room to work around the car...

The shell already has fiberglass BRE front spoiler and fenders, 8 points bolted in roll cage and flipped front x-member (Previous owner also planed a KA24 build)

Of course I wanted to know the backstory of this little 510. I was happy to find out it was used as a rally car during the 70s and 80s (hence the 8 points roll cage).
Even more interesting, it was owned by a female rally driver from Montreal, Nicole Ouimet.

Here's a old article I found about her
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And a picture with the car
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It still rolls on the 13in aluminum rims you can see in the picture and I even have the quarter glass with the ''Pirelli world rally champion'' sticker.
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Also found a video where you can see her and a bit of the car. (at 3:04)
https://youtu.be/4bEJs8PNHUw


The previous owner had this shell and 2 other 510's for parts. I have many many doors, trunks, hoods, trims, bumpers, etc...
Some in good shape, others are only good for the bin.

First step will be to sort everything out, keep all the good stuff and throw away anything unusable.

I will try my best to post updates on the project, but I tend to forget to take pictures when working.

Are there any members from the region of Montreal? I've never seen a single 510 on the road.

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby Byron510 » 09 Apr 2017 20:17

Cool to see old rally footage with 510's in them.

There is another tiny shot of the car at the very end of that clip.

Interesting that the car survived to this day. Most rally cars just faded into obscurity, got bent and rusted away.

Keep us posted.

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby McShagger510 » 11 Apr 2017 19:39

WOW, cool stuff. Did you get the log book(s) with the car too? If not, GO BACK AND GET THEM. Good score and its nice to see you are realistic about the project time frame.

James
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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby Fred_L-P » 12 Apr 2017 04:01

Unfortunately I don't have anything else regarding its past life. As far as I know I'm the third owner since it's been off duty, and it has never seen the road since. All this kind of stuff probably vanished a long time ago.

I got the car transferred to my name yesterday. It's officially mine!
Before working on the car I need to clean up the work space, build new storage shelves out of the way and a workbench.
I will take care of this on Friday.

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby funwithmonkeys » 12 Apr 2017 19:13

Nice find, especially out in your area. Something about the wheels looks a bit off. The lug nut doesn't seem to be centered in the hole.
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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby McShagger510 » 12 Apr 2017 22:56

Those rims are referred to as the Uni-lug bolt pattern so they'll fit different cars - 4x114.3 and 4x100. They require a special offset washer, similar to these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-MAG-LUG-NUTS ... 51&vxp=mtr

James
Nothing ventured, nothing grained! - Benjamin Franklin

'72 2dr. 510 Turbo
'73 240Z all stock
'71 2dr. 510 stock......for now
'91 Nissan truck
'78 Kawasaki Z1-R
'84 Kawasaki GPZ750 Turbo
'99 Kawasaki ZRX1100

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby Fred_L-P » 13 Apr 2017 14:35

I didn't pay much attention to the wheels, never noticed this detail. Good to know, thanks!

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby DADZSUN » 16 Apr 2017 20:29

Fred_L-P wrote:Are there any members from the region of Montreal? I've never seen a single 510 on the road.


Welcome to the Realm! Great story behind your find.

Trust me, there's other 510s out there. I recall reading a Montreal car forum a couple of years ago and there was an orange one similar to mine.

I went over a decade of being very active in Ottawa's Motorsport club and I never saw a 510. 5 years ago I finally got mine and suddenly there's 6 others examples that I know of in the region.
'72 Datsun 510 - KA24E/R1 carbs/EDIS 4 Megajolt
'76 Datsun 280z

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby andrew.lori » 18 Apr 2017 18:03

Hey welcome to the Realm. I think there is an old build posting here on the realm by the kid you bought the car from. I'm in Ottawa if your ever here let me know and we should try and get together. DON'T BIN ANYTHING you will regret it I know. LOL
FYI I'm just finishing a KA24DE car .
Father and Son build here on the realm
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1972 Datsun 510 SR Monster Sold it
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1972 Mazda 808 ... 39k original Miles

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby Fred_L-P » 19 Apr 2017 04:13

I think there is an old build posting here on the realm by the kid you bought the car from.

I'm curious, I'll try to dig the old threads. It would have to be at least 6 years old though, maybe 10.

Don't worry about the bin, you're not the first to tell me :wink:

The red one is KA24DE? I quickly checked your thread this morning. Nice work by the way, everything looks pretty damn clean. I love the Orange 510.
I thought it would be easy to find one out of a 240sx since they're pretty much all being replaced by sr20's, but harder than i thought.
They're all beaten up 200000kms +
With all the JDM shops around, sr20's are all over the place in a reasonable price range.
I know its a bit more complicated than the KA swap, but I'm thinking about it.
Anyway I'm only planing on buying the engine next year so I have plenty of time to think about it.

I have family in Gatineau. I'm not going too often, but next time if I can drop by I'd love it!

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby andrew.lori » 19 Apr 2017 06:06

Sounds great Fritz and I and a couple other 510 guys here in Ottawa would be happy to see you any time. Make sure you look at the build for DADZSUN ( Fritz) as well he has a different twist on the KA swap way cool.
Andrew
1966 Sunbeam Tiger MK1A
1970 Datsun 510 CASC Road Racer ( to be restored )
1972 Datsun 510 SR Monster Sold it
1977 Datsun 200SX
1973 Toyota Celica
1972 Triumph GT6 SCCA Vintage Race Car / Money Pit
1972 Mazda 808 ... 39k original Miles

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby andrew.lori » 19 Apr 2017 17:30

I'm not sure there was a build thread for your car here.... it may have beet Greg the guy you bough it from facebook page. I would check with him about the logbook when he bought it off of Kijiji I think the previous owner was advertising the log book. It certainly adds value to the car.
Andrew
1966 Sunbeam Tiger MK1A
1970 Datsun 510 CASC Road Racer ( to be restored )
1972 Datsun 510 SR Monster Sold it
1977 Datsun 200SX
1973 Toyota Celica
1972 Triumph GT6 SCCA Vintage Race Car / Money Pit
1972 Mazda 808 ... 39k original Miles

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby Fred_L-P » 19 Apr 2017 18:57

I bought it from a Simon near Quebec city. I don't know who owned it before that. I guess I can ask him. He already told me but I can't remember. Greg doesn't ring a bell.

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby andrew.lori » 19 Apr 2017 20:21

Interesting it looks exactly like a car that was down near Burlington Ont. And the story of the guy prepping it for a KA is very much the same. These darn cars just keep falling out of the cracks. :)
Andrew
1966 Sunbeam Tiger MK1A
1970 Datsun 510 CASC Road Racer ( to be restored )
1972 Datsun 510 SR Monster Sold it
1977 Datsun 200SX
1973 Toyota Celica
1972 Triumph GT6 SCCA Vintage Race Car / Money Pit
1972 Mazda 808 ... 39k original Miles

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Re: Fred's 73 2dr 510

Postby DADZSUN » 21 Apr 2017 14:06

andrew.lori wrote:... I think there is an old build posting here on the realm by the kid you bought the car from..


The colors were quite similar so I actually thought the same thing Andrew but it looks like it was another car/owner (MCMLXXXV) - since sold.

http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25697&p=218393&hilit=quebec#p218393

http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?t=25701
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