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Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby Byron510 » 14 Sep 2009 20:54

Eh fellow dimers,
I recieved this PM earlier today, but I thought that the topic should be posted for all to see as the reponce is good for us all:




You seem to be a knowledgeable member of these forums so I thought this question would be appropriate to ask you. I have the opportunity to purchase an 'aftermarket' windshield for my '72 Two Door. My current windshield is cracked and I most definitely need a new one.... My question is... What information do you know about these aftermarket windshields roaming around the market? It would be a shame to buy this windshield only to have it leak on me or cloud up. Any info at all would be great.


Hi there,
I have, unfortunately, had experience with these Chinese made windshields. A group of us bought a case of 10, and then split them up amongst the club members.
And - they are not good. For a start, they are significantly thinner. All the cars that I have personally installed these windshields in are fair weather cars, in other words we avoid rain at all costs so I can’t tell you if leaking is a concern. All three of these windshields were installed with new, OEM rubber gaskets.
You have to be a bit more careful when installing them, as they would be easier to break than standard Nissan glass.
The other issue is that they seem to be prone to pitting and hazing prematurely. After only 20 driving hours in both Bert Vorgons car, and Jason’s wagon, the glass is already noticeably pitted when driving into a low sun. And Bert has already suffered a bulls eye, but this is not the glass's fault (however, thicker glass would be less prone to bulls eyes).
So, if the glass is cheap, then I say it'll work. But if you have an alternative, I'd try to find a piece of Nissan glass.
I have looked into making windshields of the appropriate thickness, but the cost of doing it locally is in the $600 range, plus about $1200 to make the jig which I think is prohibitively expensive – at least right now.
Just my thoughts.

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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby jason » 14 Sep 2009 22:34

Thus far, I haven't noticed any water leaks with the gasket or the windshield. I was also choiceless as my windshield was also cracked. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the OEM windshield, but, those are NLA even out of Japan...
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby datzenmike » 15 Sep 2009 16:57

Are they even legal??? Are they safety glass with plastic layer in the middle??? Certified for use in North Am?? Or are they Chinese nuclear waste encased in glass. http://www.seattlepi.com/specials/eternity/vitri1.html (hi lou) :mrgreen:
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby Baz » 15 Sep 2009 17:47

laminated band tinted ADR approved windcreens are still available in Oz.
No probs with high UV & we use them on race & rally cars. A1 quality.
the screens are approx AU$150 but freight is a huge killer due to the size of the box.
Have tried to do a bulk deal years ago but it was a pain in the butt & not worth the effort.
2 or 3 in a box is best we can do & then it will be freight by fedex.

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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby bertvorgon » 15 Sep 2009 19:23

We should look into this gang! What is the Aussie dollar right now, compared to ours?

As Byron said, I got a small star chip in my new windshield, from what must have been a very small stone. We did not even hear it. At least the Novus repair worked. I suspect they scrimp on the annealing process, after watching a program on how windshields are made.

These Chineese windshields are very poor quality. I have maybe a total of 40 hours on mine, and already it is almost as bad as my original 73 screen..almost. Yes, there is a laminate in there, as one got broken in storage, so we know for sure. It is way thinner that the factory ones for sure. If I had even thought there was NO laminate in there, I would have just done a Lexan window and changed it once a year
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby 510rob » 15 Sep 2009 20:43

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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby Baz » 15 Sep 2009 23:13

Also there are a very limited number of coupe (not 2 door sedan) screens available.
also now available ( these are made in OZ)
http://datsport.com/rubbers-510-coupe.html

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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby banzai510(hainz) » 17 Sep 2009 08:44

I have a Aussie made 521 windsheild . Seems like good quaility to me

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Postby merlin » 17 Sep 2009 10:28

count me in for two if this goes...... however, if we have demand for say 20, wouldn't it just be cheaper and less risky for us to pitch in and have the mold made and do them here?
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby bertvorgon » 19 Sep 2009 05:44

Just a quick update. Byron and I had a discussion about this issue, and will re-visit it later in the fall/winter.

The bottom line is there would be no volume discount, as he only makes them one at a time. The cost could be kept lower by having a group that was commited, as this would drop the overall cost of the mold down. This also would be a deal on everybody puts there money up front first. Apparently, he would make them to the CORRECT THICKNESS, and yes they would have a DOT sticker on them.

Will keep you all posted.
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby hang_510 » 21 Sep 2009 10:21

what would the final cost be?

and how would we get em down here?
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Postby okayfine » 21 Sep 2009 10:32

Merlin travels to the US all the time, conveniently in a Toyota Tacoma. Lots of space for windshields in that truck bed.
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby merlin » 21 Sep 2009 12:32

okayfine wrote:Merlin travels to the US all the time, conveniently in a Toyota Tacoma. Lots of space for windshields in that truck bed.


So true... I'll be going to New Mexico via LA in about a month... and again in January to Barrett-Jackson for a look see. The new 4 cylinder Tacoma 4x4 runs on vapors... already own two and just ordered my third one this week.
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby hang_510 » 22 Sep 2009 09:03

merlin wrote: The new 4 cylinder Tacoma 4x4 runs on vapors...

so itll be like floating in a cloud with all those windshields around you when you bring em by :wink: :mrgreen:


i have not installed either chinashield that i have...
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Re: Chinese made aftermarket windshields

Postby goatee » 23 Sep 2009 12:06

Got a chip the other day from a semi going the other way. Didn't know these were so hard to come by so I'm going to get that patched (forty bucks ridiculous) and I'd be interested in this as well.
Is my dime pretty rough? yep Could it use an owner with a little more mechanical expertise? yeah probably. Does it look like every other beige sedan in the parking lot? No sir it doesnt.


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