Dash harness and hardware questions

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Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby Intel » 01 Mar 2017 19:57

Just picked up a 1971 Datsun 510 last summer and I am in the middle of creating a dash harness for it as it doesn't currently have one. My car currently has a KA24de swap with megasquirt and the only stock harness in it is the one that goes to the taillights. My goal is to recreate a semi oem harness although with the use of relays for the lights etc vs running all the power through the headlight switch.

The wiring was neater before I pulled it apart to figure out what it was all doing. Hoping by summer to have all of this replaced.
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My first question is if anyone has pictures of a stock oem harness with the connectors labeled for a reference? I have multiple versions of the electrical diagram and have come up with a very basic small harness to give me Headlights/Turn signals/hazards etc so she is sort of legal on the road. The car did come with a 1968 style sweeper dash with harness is that harness pretty similar to where I can use it as a reference?

Second question is I am in the midst of getting the dash frame/pedal box powdercoated along with the top metal pieces. When I dissassembled everything it was all done in silver screws that didn't look oem and really stood out. Does anybody have pictures or sizes/lengths/color of the dash hardware.

Hardware questions Size/Thread/Color if you know it.
1. Gauge/Glovebox/Center radio console to metal frame
2. Bolts that hold this in place. Mine were bright silver.. I assume they came with something in black?
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3. Replacement plastic clips for dash frame. I need like 5-6 as most came out in one piece when prepping it for powdercoat.
4. Any other hardware related to the dash frame that I might be missing?

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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby okayfine » 03 Mar 2017 07:41

The '68 harness is similar to the late-dash harness, but I don't think it's enough to really help. If you have good color wiring diagrams, you'd be better off with that and:
http://vintageconnections.com/

They have most of the wiring plugs and sockets used in 510s.
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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby Intel » 03 Mar 2017 11:10

Already have all the connectors from vintage connections and corsa.
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Been resoldering wires to my switches as they were mostly hacked off or brittle.
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The problem I am having is sourcing the circular connector for the dash/gauges and the general layout of how it is all arranged out from the harness. I have a very good understanding of how all the circuits work etc. In the end I can make it work just was trying to make it as stock style as possible.

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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby qwik510 » 03 Mar 2017 14:48

I may have a hacked up dash harness I can get the circular connector from. I can look this weekend.
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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby Byron510 » 04 Mar 2017 00:25

Depending on how hacked the harness is, maybe just send the whole thing.

Is there any way you can start with a whole factory harness? Old or not, you'd be miles ahead I think. Building one from scratch is a huge job. If you don't want to use a factory harness, how about a rewire kit from a hot rod outfit? There are many to choose from.

It's a challenge to do this on your own, but man a lot of work! Keep us posted on the progress.

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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby Intel » 05 Mar 2017 21:29

Byron510 wrote:Depending on how hacked the harness is, maybe just send the whole thing.

Is there any way you can start with a whole factory harness? Old or not, you'd be miles ahead I think. Building one from scratch is a huge job. If you don't want to use a factory harness, how about a rewire kit from a hot rod outfit? There are many to choose from.

It's a challenge to do this on your own, but man a lot of work! Keep us posted on the progress.

Byron


Thanks! I will get it done I am not worried. Just sorting my way through it and will put together a test run in the next few weeks.

Any ideas on the Dash hardware sizes/color?

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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby yenpit » 22 Mar 2017 17:36

The "Paolo" hand drawn wiring schematics are KILLER cool!! He must be an engineer or something, cuz they are dead nutz easy to use! They are fully color coded, have a drawing of every plug, location of each color coded wire IN the plugs etc etc. If you are not aware, I believe ALL of the Haynes Clymers Chilton's etc etc aftermarket wiring schematics are wrong.....not USA-spec. This makes using them a real pain!

His contact is paolo@cedarcomm.com

If qwik510 doesn't have what you need, I do! I even have a few really nice clean uncut dash harnesses.

I am in DESPERATE need of a very early production 1970 Sedan round gauge DASH HARNESS if anybody has one! There is a white part # tag on every harness (although they do fall off).......the one I need is part # 24013-A5500.......nothing else will work without modifications. Somebody save me!!! :roll:

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Re: Dash harness and hardware questions

Postby Mr0erick0 » 13 May 2017 17:32

which connector kit did you with at vintage connection and what wiring harness?? I'm trying to get starting on wiring for my 68 510.


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