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Re: Florida newb!

Post by two_68_510s » 27 Jul 2014 16:19

The high end of the spectrum:
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Re: Florida newb!

Post by d357r0y » 27 Jul 2014 16:26

I saw that one, it's pretty intense looking. I wasn't able to find a lot or much of any build info though. It looks like the firewall was pushed pretty far back. I'm thinking no firewall chopping though. I'm currently trying to source a blown LS long block AND A T56 for measurement/clearance purposes.
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Re: Florida newb!

Post by bertvorgon » 27 Jul 2014 17:04

http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.ph ... e&start=15

Read through this link, gives you all sorts of takes on the v-8 swap, and then some.

Be kind to the 510 shell........
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Re: Florida newb!

Post by okayfine » 27 Jul 2014 18:49

I can point you toward some info on Brock's Datzilla build if you want. No firewall choppage will be difficult, though. It's a big motor for the 510's bay, and depth is probably a bigger issue than width (once you add in the accessory drive/crank pulley AND radiator AND fan). Trans tunnel is all kinds of small compared to what you need for a T56, you lose the heater core/defrost box, steering box wants to live where the header wants to live, etc.

Lots of issues. No rocket science, but some people tend to have "V8" on the brain and don't end up looking at it rationally. Not saying you, specifically, but we've seem similar more than once.
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Re: Florida newb!

Post by d357r0y » 27 Jul 2014 19:30

I'll make you guys this promise...

No cutting until i'm 100% sure that the swap will go the way I want. If it's not feasible, I'll go another route.

Nothing is set in stone. :)

Some info on the Datzilla build would be fantastic.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by qwik510 » 27 Jul 2014 19:49

I had a V8 510 with an Olds 215 CI all aluminum engine and T5 trans. It was done without any major mods to the firewall but the core support opening was widened to allow the radiator to come more forward (just behind the grill) and there was barely enough room for the compact engine. It never ran as cool as I would have liked even with a 3" griffin radiator and 4 spal cooling fans. I decided a V8 in a 510 wasn't a great swap. I still wanted a V8 Datsun so I built a 240Z.

I did an LS1/T56 swap into a 240Z and there was plenty of room in that car. I know there is no way to shoehorn an LS1 into a 510s engine bay without either cutting up the firewall and moving it back or maybe installing a radiator horizontally under the front or in some other location and utilizing the space where the radiator was for the engine to come forward more. But then you will have too much weight in the front.

So if you really want to do an LS series engine into a 510, be prepared to move the firewall and then find a place to install a heater/defroster remotely. (I see you are in Florida) maybe a Vintage Air A/C system? I put one in the 240Z but I doubt you will have room in a 510. But you will likely need defogger in Florida when it rains.


Datzilla was highly modified. The firewall was moved back significantly, a custom dash was made for it and the seats were moved back so when you sit in the car, you are actually behind the B pillar and the car is a 2 seater with no room for a back seat.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by okayfine » 28 Jul 2014 06:47

DQ Volume 9 Issue 4 - Reader's Dime: Gary Savage sits down with Peter Brock to discuss Peter's newest 510, the 450HP V8 Datzilla
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Re: Florida newb!

Post by Phearski » 28 Jul 2014 07:26

Hey JoJo. I'm not sure if we have met. I also live in Pensacola. Unlike you, I have yet to acquire a 510. But, I do have an LS Nissan.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by d357r0y » 29 Jul 2014 16:58

Phearski,

I only know of a couple guys in town with 510s and I barely know them. There's a guy over in Jax with a 510 for sale but he apparently thinks it's made out of gold and wants too much.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by Phearski » 29 Jul 2014 21:07

Were you on d2m before? I think I recognize your screenname.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by d357r0y » 30 Jul 2014 05:37

Yessir. I still go by there and lurk from time to time but it's been ages.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by Phearski » 01 Aug 2014 18:15

I'd like to check out your 510 sometime.

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Re: Florida newb!

Post by d357r0y » 01 Aug 2014 19:54

Anytime (I'm not working) is fine. Shoot me a PM and I'll give you my #.

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