The Bronze - '69er Resto Project and continuing build-up.

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Post by vgwagon » 10 Jan 2008 19:02

Byron510 wrote: I'll be able to mount race tires on 13" rims and retain the gearing advantage.
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The small wheels give you more advantage than you would think.
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Post by inline4 » 10 Jan 2008 20:00

Byron510 wrote:If you are serious, I can put a quote together for you.
A stripped strut does not weigh that much...

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+ spacers + rear brake brackets?

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Post by 510wizard » 06 Feb 2008 12:32

Byron510 wrote:And I found time to shorten the struts as well.
Because I'm a machinist, I would never do this any other way...
I used Tokico Illumina adjustable shocks from an MR2. It's a nice compromise between the stock 280ZX length and the really short VW Rabbit length (I've used all of them on different cars now).
I shortened the struts 42mm, but 43mm would be better as the strut nut comes down very close to the tube (next time). I also used the washer that comes with the strut insert, which is just over 2mm thick as well as the MR2 Strut nut (also included).
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Hey Byron,
What is the length of the TOBZ3099 shock, I am using a set of M30 struts which are a little shorter than S12 and was thinking that these might work.

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Re: '69er Resto Project (The Bronze) and continuing build-up.

Post by Byron510 » 08 Feb 2008 08:11

Monte,

I'm heading out of town again for work, but I'll see if I can get a measurement on the total length of the struts this weekend before I go. I'm not at work today, so I can't measure them. I'll post the answer here.
BTW, I like your project thread - following it with great interest.
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Post by 510wizard » 08 Feb 2008 10:10

No problem, when ever it is convenient for you. Thanks for your kind words on the project- more to come.
Thanks!
Monte

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Post by Byron510 » 11 Feb 2008 19:49

Monte,

I didn't get a chance to measure those MR2 struts on the weekend. I worked until midnight at home on a roll cage job last night – nad was at the airport at 7am this morning. I hope you can wait for a couple weeks. If you need it sooner let me know. I could probably get a co-worker to measure the struts back home, and I could post the measurement then. Otherwise, I will get an exact measurement for you when I get back home; maybe I should post it in the "Strut" thread for reference for others as well.
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Re: '69er Resto Project (The Bronze) and continuing build-up.

Post by rnorrish » 12 Feb 2008 00:37

are you looking for just the overall casing length?
compressed vs. uncompressed?
I too have a set sitting in the garage, and will be competing against Byron in the 510 Limbo Contest this year...
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Post by 510wizard » 12 Feb 2008 06:31

Byron,
I am in no rush, when you get back is fine, The red Koni 280ZX inserts are about .75" too tall in the S12 strut casing and about .875" too tall in the M30, I thought about using the Koni yellow sports for the Z31, but I don't know the total insert length of those either, but they are probably shorter then the 280ZX. I am just trying to get lengths on these different inserts.

Rnorrish,
Yes, the total casing length.
Thanks!
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Re: '69er Resto Project (The Bronze) and continuing build-up.

Post by Byron510 » 28 Feb 2008 18:16

Montey,

I did measure the length of those MR2 cartriges this past week while I was back - I damn near forgot, did it right before flying out. I can't post the photos right now, but the insert looked pretty funny inside a 1 meter vernier caliper! Anyways, the overall length of the strut cartidge body is 335.5mm. The overall length of the strut cartridge extended was 564.5mm. The machined diamiter at the top of the strut, right below the thread is a 15mm diameter (which will require an awefully thin wall sleeve to fit inside my com10 bushing on my top hats).
Sorry it took so long to get this to you, but I simply haven't been home! And I'm onthe road for work again as I write this. I wanted this whole set up in my car (The Bronze) by this time, hopefully I can get to it soon.
Let me know if you need anything else, I will post these photos of the cartidge when I get home.
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Post by rnorrish » 28 Feb 2008 23:59

byron, talk to Aron about the bushing.
he did mine a couple weeks ago. i'll spoil the suspense though, he machined the strut shaft.

sorry Monte. I forgot...
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Post by Byron510 » 29 Feb 2008 04:26

Did Aron machine the strut shaft down to the thread OD so that he has a thicker wall on the bush insert? if so, that would make sense. I'll take a look at it soon.

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Post by rnorrish » 29 Feb 2008 22:19

yeah, something like that.
he also included a shoulder on the bushing so that the bearing and camber plate would sit in the right spot and still swivel enough.
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Re: '69er Resto Project (The Bronze) and continuing build-up.

Post by Byron510 » 25 Mar 2008 10:13

OK, back to the front suspension....

I just machined up a couple spacers to adapt the ID of the com10 spherical bushing to the OD of the TOBZ3099 Tokico 5 way adjustable MR2 insert.
Pic below.
The wall thickness of that bushing is 0.017” – eek. But it’s just a spacer, it serves no structural duty. I made the washer at the top the same OD as the flat on the com10 bushing, and it’s 3mm thick. They wer made out of some C1045 shaft I had around – sorry, no stainless kicking around this time!

Matt, I also made you a set as per our earlier discussion
Chris, do you need these as well?

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Re: '69er Resto Project (The Bronze) and continuing build-up.

Post by heirfaus » 25 Mar 2008 10:39

Gosh I hate to sound uninformed, but I have know idea what you are making :shock: . I guess I'm not familiair enough with com10
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Re: '69er Resto Project (The Bronze) and continuing build-up.

Post by Byron510 » 25 Mar 2008 11:36

This just adapts the ID of the Com10 bush (0.625") to the OD of the strut (15mm).
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